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your biggest issue is that you really think companies don't know everytthing you said in this video . . like planned obsolecense was not a fact . .
Exactly!
No it’s all about money and Greedy companies trying to get extra money
The most eco friendly thing you can do is to keep using your current phone as long as you can .
Ive got mine for 5 years now and im not planning to swap in now
@Nezunish - batterys die over time its part of life a 5 yo phone isnt going to have the same battery life as when you brought it
@Uthman Baksh tecnolagy changes new materials are discovered theres alot of reasons to upgrade same reason we arnt all dryiving around in 1958 chevvys
@Lex Mark but the point is apple gives you time to upgrade it isnt like oh u dont wanna buy a 1500 dollar phone well eat rocks
and apple allows you to do this samaung and all of the other welfare android phones dont when the new one comes out they expect you to buy a new phone no updates to ur old phone pay us or go with out apple is the more fair option
If they really do want to save the environment by saving packaging, they could give us an option where we can add headphones or a charging brick as an add-on. By this, those people who already have a charger/headphones consume less packaging and those who need one consume lesser packaging than buying It standalone. And, the companies can also divert profits from these third-party charger/headphones makers to themselves. I don't get why this hasn't been done yet.
That's exactly what I was thinking
These items they claimed were free, really weren't. They just made ppl believe it was a "good deal". I'm sure they're also hoping to gain or at least save money by forcing ppl to use wireless charging, bc the trend is heading towards that in gen pop. They want to pretend to care so ppl are more inclined to buy from them and only them. Good marketing(appearing to care) = more money for them≠ an actual benefit to consumers.
Because only green they care about is💵
Absolutely on point in this video. I just switched over from android and had to get a new power adapter since I sold my original one with the old phone. The amount of wasted cardboard and resources to deliver 2 products that used to be sold together is absurd. This is definitely a profit driven decision and nothing to do with eco friendliness.
@brendon rookes Not really, many android phones now use usb-c to usb-c charging cable… That means the new iPhone lightning to usb-c would work because the usb-c end is meant to be fit to the wall.
if you swaped from android to iphone you would of still needed a new charger since apple and android chargers arnt the same
I agree too
I agree
This was an awesome and very truthful evaluation on the so called “ green initiative” to no longer include a charger or headphones, as Apple began to do! It’s ridiculous to think that for instance, Apple who had the unmitigated gall to not only exclude the rest of the package contents we’ve grown to expect when ordering a SmartDevice , but then to make this, glorified glossy and colorful egregiously, disingenuous commercial claiming their reason for not including the attachments was to save the planet, it’s not only insulting to their customers to think they could get away with this fairytale of deception like this but they make themselves look petty and cheap. They are blatantly saying right to our faces, we’re gonna charge you the same price and give you less all for the sake of their bottom line! who the hell do they think their kidding?? You were much to kind in your presentation of the facts. However, you’re speaking up and that’s appreciated! I have been an Apple guy for sometime, much like a good portion of the smartphone buying community, with an iPad, an i phone every 2 or 3 years, a desk top Apple unit and I have just ordered my first Samsung Android smartphone! That gesture by Apple to start that , petty money grabbing cheap trick, excluding the charger and the headphones, that eventually caused the rest to follow is shameful on Apples part and has not set well with me at all! Especially having some of the most expensive devices on the market, as Apple has for several years now. It’s time to start swinging back, enough is enough! Stop robbing your customers in broad daylight Apple! Your products are good but your character is NOT! I advise others, including Samsung, not to follow the guy in front of you , reminds me of the old phrase , we used to hear when we were younger, when our parents would say, if your friend ( the guy in front ) jumped off the bridge would you follow and do the same? It’s a trend that might come back and bite you, backfires a bitch! There’s also a little Judge Judy I hear in my ear as I conclude my thoughts, when she says, “ don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining “ -please don’t! Hey can you send a few copies of your presentation directly to the CEO’s and upper management of these SmartDevice creators? along with a link to some of the comments that it’s inspired.. 🤨😠😙
@Gaming with glitched I always guessed Americans were illiterate but I wasn't sure about it
Oh damn dats a lotta words
Thank you for this very informative video. Excellent points made here. I always knew that magsafe wireless charging was less efficient than wired charging, so I was really disappointed to hear that Apple was considering getting rid of the charging ports on its future iPhones. I didn’t think magsafe was as bad as mentioned in the video. Have a feeling Apple is green washing and worse: encouraging other smartphone manufacturers to do the same.
When they said "we're going green" they didn't mean this green ♻️ they meant this green 💸
Ikr
Ain’t they just cheap
You just nailed it
True Very True
Nice ha ha classic
I am extremely impressed by your argument here. You lay out the problems honestly and give viable solutions. I especially like how you point out the inescapable fact that companies implement "green" policies as long as there is a profit incentive that goes along with those policies. Offloading your carbon footprint to other competitors or industries is just kicking the can down the road.
I use wireless charging almost exclusively for the last 4 or 5 years. The fast charging is a great way to degrade your battery life quickly. Nice in a pinch but not something to use regularly
I am very appreciative of my POCO X3 coming with a fast charger. i would never have known that the charger speed was that variable without it
Just bought a new phone this year since 2019 and I was completely shocked that it doesn’t come with the plug anymore. What’s worst is that ever since Apple changed to USB-C, it doesn’t even fit into my old USB plug thus me needing to dish out money to buy a separate plug 🙃
Earlier: no earphones Now: no charger Future: no phone just the box
Next is no box, Then they sell only the chips where you need to buy the rest and create the phone yourself like ikea.
😂😂
@Branko Cokoropski It is not from my plastic
"Our last iPhone was the best iPhone ever made. We are giving you the opportunity to keep that phone for just 1099."
Future: They send you the phone chassis, then you have to but the rest of internal parts as accessories.
You can add, fuel and other overhead to that. Great review, its good that we remain skeptical when it comes to some claims to help the environment. It wont be the first time that it does not fully addsup.
Nice video Arun. I think this charger not being included in the box shenanigans is to increase profit. They are still selling the chargers on their site( Google, Samsung etc..) despite not including them in box which would require another delivery (more packaging, more emissions re delivery truck transportation of said product). The cost of the phones however remain the same even though you're getting less.
So agree with you. Chargers and leads should be included. I recently got an iPhone SE as a work phone and needed to buy an apple charging plug for the weird lead. Yes Amazon sent that in a big box.
What I love about this is, say if you want to buy an extra cord which I tend to do so I can leave one at home. Not only do you have to buy the cord but you also have to buy the charger which means two separate boxes. Which also means more money since the cord is like 25 and then the charger is also 25 making u spend 50
Literally I'm blown away, the amount of research he does before saying anything and the level of intellect he has, I'm proud to have someone like you becoming the voice of us.
Yup The definition of quality - MRWHOSETHEBOSS
He likely has a whole team, but still the credit is due for this type of interesting and unique content.
People should be given the option to receive a charger when purchasing at least. They are essential and often break before the actual phone. Also they are not all compatible with other phones.
These companies move enough volume that they could likely just have options at purchase for "with charger" and "with headphones" (at least on their website) - and have a different box for each setup - so if you have an old peripheral you want, you could save a little money and packaging, and if you needed a replacement (or a spare) you could add it in.
I just bought a new Motorola phone in December, and the guy at the store was like "*AND* it comes with a charger, because Motorola is one of the only companies that still cares about their customers." That was literally the first time I learned that other companies don't package charging bricks with their phones anymore, and it baffled me. The way people just accept this nonsense is depressing.
I work at a phone store and I can promise you, 80% of Sales already own a charging brick, charger, and headphones compatible with their phone. The issue with this video is that pretty much everyone already has every item and just needs a phone upgrade.
made a solid point about the earphones all slowly and silently being removed over the years. crazy what these companies are doing.
Finally someone who speaks up about this atrocity
True
Money speaks louder than the good of the planet
@corporatestatusbrah not for everyone 😂
Brick charges are the most common thing in someone’s house. Why do you need another one every time you buy a phone.
Finally someone words it in such a way the everyone can understand.
I'm 50/50 on this one... I pretty happy that they've dumped crappy single usb charging bricks that are no more powerful than 10-15w and it takes up heaps of space in my bin of charging bricks. I use GaN chargers now and it's just better and more convenient. Don't think most of the bigger companies like Samsung and Apple will ever include the Max W chargers in the box... However I totally agree that companies are looking at added $$$ in profit by omitting it. And the amount of packaging to ship stuff from Amazon is insane for the smallest things. So it's a pros and cons debate...
If smartphone companies actually believed in ‘going green’ they’d make their products easier to be repaired - Or, for Apple, able to be repaired at all by non-Apple techs. (I.e. being able to replace their face-id module.. or ambient light sensor… or front-facing camera… or anything without them then limiting your phones functionality for no reason.
It would’ve made actual sense if they had an option to have the brick included with the phone in addition to the brick less one
I will say, a good bit of this video could be mitigated by buying things in a store. If you buy the earbuds at Walmart, there’s no shipping box, they’re going on a route that already exists, and all the freight packaging for however many they get in is one box that they recycle, or reuse in some cases. It’s also more sensible if you need it quickly, and AirPods are cheaper at Walmart than on Amazon or straight from Apple
Buying a new phone in 2015: Oh boy, I wonder what features will be added! Buying a new phone in 2021: Oh boy, I wonder what features will be removed!
👍👍👍👍👏
So better not to comsume but we need it that is the problem .
This is the reason why I still love sony, they still try to keep most of the pieces in tact in their flagship. Like a charger right out of the box, 3.5mm jacks, physical fingerprint readers etc.
I only still have my iphone because its easy for me to use ive had my 6 forever i like how itunes separates and organizes music and movies, im not one of the people that buys a new phone just because it has/ had new features im just comfortable with how it works
I've been using the same charger for 11 years now and it still works fine. The cable is 7 years old and also still works.
I remember when the pixel 2XL I had, included an adapter for a headphone jack. while I mostly use bluetooth for now with one of my skullcandy pieces I got a while back, I also lent the adapter to a family member to use with a set of earbuds that used the jack too.
Excellent essay. I have a bunch of old chargers lying around, so I’m ok with it on a basic level. But greenwashing it, when it’s really about saving money on shipping is just insulting our intelligence. Your point is well made, that these companies have effectively cleared their conscience and transferred the guilt to us. Think different! 😆
Absolutely love the explanation which most people don't consider until it is pointed out. Love your videos.
If sustainability was really the priority then they’d support right to repair.
!!!!!!
So on point...
They would have made the phone last forever at the first place.
Facts
@Marvin Horst haha how wrong you are. This is one of the few issues conservative farmers in Wyoming and progressive techies in California agree on. Literally, farmers cannot repair their own tractors anymore and I imagine it applies to many other things... actually, the McDonald's ice cream machines are always broken for this reason as well since corporate gets kickbacks and screw the franchisees.
I find it great, that you had the balls, to come out and say it, like it is. Only thing, why this is happening, is so that manufacturers can rip even more money out of your pocket. It really isn't a "Green Ecofriendly thing to save the earth". It's a better way to get more of your green money, to their pockets. Plain and simple.
On the other hand, wireless chargers reduce the wear of the USB-C port, which prolongs the life time of a phone, which is positive from the environmental standpoint.
if this was truly environmental reason, they should need to give life time for at least 5 years warranty for their chargers
What they should do is make the cord that goes in the wireless charger fit the iPhone charging port so u have the option to do either wire or wireless charging
Let's be honest to ourselves here, the only "green" that these companies actually care about are the dollar signs
Frl
Or pounds
@Han Hong cause apple has more money than the government
@Otzaryah Hawkins company also gotta provide their customers what they want
I like that you thought this through. Today it appears to be very easy to fool the 40 and younger crowd. Thank you for pointing this out. Would love to see you expose more of the corporate lies to young people.
Appreciate the unbiased content.
This is the first time I've seen something like this. I got a new Samsung yesterday and it was a c-port but on both ends which baffled me as to why they did that. Luckily I had a c-port charger already cause that would've been annoying to get after.
You nailed it, man! Well done. Totally agree with you!
I genuinely felt offended when Apple came out saying they are not including a charging brick citing environmental benefits. They are doing it to save their own logistics and shipping costs. Save costs but charge customers more. Business tip; dont treat your customers like they are dumb.
@Dylan Taaffe I agree partially. I recently stepped over from Android to iOs and I must admit, the whole Apple device experience seems a tad bit more different and premium to me. Ofcourse you're overpaying for features which are also provided to cheaper devices. In the end I feel like the premium feel I have with an iPhone can't just be copied elsewhere. Even when Apple decides to dumb down on what they're offering. I feel like other companies are just following in their footsteps and us consumers can't change anything about that.
But they are!
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@Dylan Taaffe however!!! I will look into this oppo phone you speak of because obvs becoming aware of this info has opened my eyes to a market of phones I didn't know about, so thank you for that
@Dylan Taaffe yeah as you said, you're a tech person. I'm not. I'm disabled as is my mother and tech can be overwhelming for us. We like to go out and see things in person, have someone explain it all go us - most of the stores that are local to us mainly shill apple and Samsung products. Sure, I compared the two and chose what suited my needs best, but I think you're overestimating the level to which the average busy distracted person is willing to go to 'not be an apple fan'. I'm all for tech buffs discussing with one another the ins and outs of stuff, but I still do not think it's fair to call anyone who ends up auto-buying one particular brand a 'fan'. It's there. It's accessible. People buy it. Corporate greed and late stage capitalism has made it that way. It is what it is.
I bet I’ve spent $500 on chargers and cables in the last 2 years alone couldn’t even imagine not losing the original before it was time to upgrade 😅
You are an all - rounded and reliable source of info. Thank you.
I reckon an actual solution would be if you could opt in to receiving a charger in the box when buying, therefore people don't have extra chargers they don't need and the people actually requiring it get one.
If it’s just solely for the benefit of the environment, they would’ve lessen the price as well since it will cost them less. But by the way things are happening, especially iPhones, they are getting more expensive and consumers won’t even have a charger for the price they pay. So yeah, as someone in the comments said, they’ve gone green - as in money.
It’s not Go Green, it’s Go Greed.
Damn true.
true
@Nightrush Lol
@Nightrush nice
@xXLegend3301Xx Capitalism, isn't it grand?
This is a great point. And if I might put in my 2 cents (4 cents due to inflation) an excellent charger is the Nintendo switch charger for usbc users. I have had one for years and no short in it. Cheap usbc chargers break so easily. But these switch chargers are durable and fast! Also if buying something that's not a switch charger I found looking for cords with that extra rubber extending from the end to envelope the cord seems to be the way to go. They are built alot more durable.
I love this. Breaks down just how bad for the environment this is. But the companies' choice to do this was never about sustainability... it's about greenwashing greed: use "sustainability" as an excuse to force customers to buy for something that used to be included to increase profits.
I remember getting the first generation iPhone (still have it). The price was around $600 (crazy back then!) But it came with 1. Charging dock 2. Charging Chord 3. Headphones (phone was TTY not 3mm) Tech reviewers back then complained about the dock, stating they never used it (I did). iPhone was so new, cases were practically non-existent. But iPhone ditch the dock in subsequent generations and I blame tech reviewers for that one. But overtime apple has been giving less with higher prices and it’s working because we’re hooked. So, there’s really no one to blame but the consumer, because they know we’ll keep buying no matter what.